Discussion:
Math ML in XHTML
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DKM
2005-11-10 21:03:10 UTC
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Hello, I just found that when I have the following:

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1 plus MathML 2.0//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/MathML2/dtd/xhtml-math11-f.dtd"
[<!ENTITY mathml "http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML">
]>
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">

in a web page with Math ML stuff, and it was just working fine, or so I
thought. Now, I get the following error in IE 6.0. :-(

====
The XML page cannot be displayed
Cannot view XML input using style sheet. Please correct the error and
then click the Refresh button, or try again later.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Parameter entity must be defined before it is used. Error processing
resource 'http://www.w3.org/TR/MathML2/dtd/xhtml-math1...

%xhtml-prefw-redecl.mod;
-^
=====
Is IE 6.0 trying to read
http://www.w3.org/TR/MathML2/dtd/xhtml-math11-f.dtd? Why?

Thanks in advance.

DKM
David Carlisle
2005-11-10 22:24:42 UTC
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Post by DKM
Is IE 6.0 trying to read
http://www.w3.org/TR/MathML2/dtd/xhtml-math11-f.dtd?
yes
Post by DKM
Why?
Because that is what you have specified. Most XML parsers will read a
DTD if it is specified (that's the point of the doctype declaration)
Mozilla does not,it special cases the mathml dtd and uses its own copy
but that is very much mozilla-specific behaviour.

The URI you used is the wrong one, the canonical mathml dtd is at

http://www.w3.org/Math/DTD/mathml2/xhtml-math11-f.dtd? Why?

IE can read that one, but you don't really want to download that every
time you look at the page.

It's best not to use a DTD (and so don't use entities) or use
mathplayer's auto-detection of the mathml dtd (and so notuse the XSL
stylesheet) in either of those cases, IE will not download the dtd.

David

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DKM
2005-11-13 15:40:01 UTC
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Post by David Carlisle
Post by DKM
Is IE 6.0 trying to read
http://www.w3.org/TR/MathML2/dtd/xhtml-math11-f.dtd?
yes
Post by DKM
Why?
Because that is what you have specified. Most XML parsers will read a
DTD if it is specified (that's the point of the doctype declaration)
Mozilla does not,it special cases the mathml dtd and uses its own copy
but that is very much mozilla-specific behaviour.
What if one is offline and the cache is empty? I am glad to know that
Mozilla does not read the DTD. I supposes it is doing the right thing.
So, I wonder why IE is trying to read.
Post by David Carlisle
The URI you used is the wrong one, the canonical mathml dtd is at
Well, I got the template from Design Science web site. And, the
template is still there and it has the 'wrong' DTD link.

Anyway, I had tried it before many months ago with IE 6.0 and it had no
problems with the wrong DTD link. It just stopped working sometime
during the last few months.
Post by David Carlisle
http://www.w3.org/Math/DTD/mathml2/xhtml-math11-f.dtd? Why?
I replaced the old link with the above link and it works now. Thanks.
Post by David Carlisle
IE can read that one, but you don't really want to download that every
time you look at the page.
It's best not to use a DTD (and so don't use entities) or use
mathplayer's auto-detection of the mathml dtd (and so notuse the XSL
stylesheet) in either of those cases, IE will not download the dtd.
I really want to know this. What is a correct template for xhtml that
works for both Mozilla and IE. I have it working on both Mozilla and IE
6.0 with the correct DTD link.

Thank you very much and I really appreciate the info about the correct
DTD link.

DKM
Post by David Carlisle
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David Carlisle
2005-11-13 19:08:27 UTC
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Post by DKM
What if one is offline and the cache is empty? I am glad to know that
Mozilla does not read the DTD. I supposes it is doing the right thing.
So, I wonder why IE is trying to read.
well in general you need to read a DTD to be able to read an xml file
(if it specifies a dtd) it may default attribute values, define entities
etc. If you need to ensure the dtd is readable then you need to refer to
a local copy of the DTD that is at the same location as the xml file.
The point of the PUBLIC identifier is that you can put _any_ location as
the system URI and the dtd can still be recognised (and special-cased if
need be) by its public identifier.

Mozilla ships with versions of the mathml and xhtmml dtds built in, but
clearly that is not a general solution, and it's not so useful if you
want to use some other document type.
Post by DKM
So, I wonder why IE is trying to read.
IE can read arbitrary (xml files, except it had some bugs that prevented
it reading the dtd you mentioned, but that's a separate issue). Its
security policies may prevent dtds being loaded from the web in some
cases, but that is (in this case) rather more flexible than mozilla's
more or less blanket ban, never reading a dtd.

David

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Vincent Lefevre
2005-11-11 00:17:21 UTC
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Post by David Carlisle
The URI you used is the wrong one, the canonical mathml dtd is at
http://www.w3.org/Math/DTD/mathml2/xhtml-math11-f.dtd? Why?
IE can read that one, but you don't really want to download that every
time you look at the page.
Do you mean that IE doesn't have a cache?
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David Carlisle
2005-11-11 10:03:31 UTC
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Post by Vincent Lefevre
Do you mean that IE doesn't have a cache?
oh yes it probably caches the page at the http get level. But still you
don't really want to fetch the DTD from the w3c site more than once,
ever.

David

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William F Hammond
2005-11-11 17:53:29 UTC
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David --
Post by David Carlisle
It's best not to use a DTD (and so don't use entities) or use
mathplayer's auto-detection of the mathml dtd (and so notuse the XSL
stylesheet) in either of those cases, IE will not download the dtd.
I've understood for some time that current MathPlayer does not want
the XSL stylesheet and that it understands the mimetype
application/xhtml, and I've long accepted the idea of not using named
CDATA entities in machine-generated xhtml.

In view of what is said above, however, I do not understand why you
say it's best not to provide a document type declaration. What
current user agent either gets in trouble or does unwanted fetching if
one is provided? I find what you've said confusing.

Thanks.

-- Bill
David Carlisle
2005-11-11 21:40:37 UTC
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Post by William F Hammond
In view of what is said above, however, I do not understand why you
say it's best not to provide a document type declaration.
I said to use mathplayer auto-detection (which requires doctype) _or_
dont use doctype, and use the stylesheet. Using the stylesheet has some
advantages in some cases, in particular it has better fallback behaviour
in IE without mathplayer, and also potentially in other browsers taht
have xsl support (of which safari is a new example, and opera 9 is
supposed to have xslt as well)

David


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DKM
2005-11-13 15:50:09 UTC
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Post by David Carlisle
Post by William F Hammond
In view of what is said above, however, I do not understand why you
say it's best not to provide a document type declaration.
I said to use mathplayer auto-detection (which requires doctype) _or_
dont use doctype, and use the stylesheet. Using the stylesheet has some
advantages in some cases, in particular it has better fallback behaviour
in IE without mathplayer, and also potentially in other browsers taht
have xsl support (of which safari is a new example, and opera 9 is
supposed to have xslt as well)
David
Given that we are dealing with xhtml, I think stylesheet would be the
way to present MathML. But, I like the Mathplayer plug-in because of
some of its extra features. Thus, I was asking my readers to use either
Mozilla which supports MathML natively or use IE together with
Mathplayer plug-in. But, I am getting really annonyed by XHTML and
thinking about changing over to HTML. Is it then possible to design
HTML pages containing MathML that can be viewed all possible browsers?
Maybe I should go back to the basics and start researching on this
topic.

Thank you very much in advance.

DKM
Post by David Carlisle
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Robert Miner
2005-11-14 15:57:29 UTC
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Hi.

Thanks for reporting the bad DTD link. I see it is updated. Sorry for
the hassle.

--Robert


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-----Original Message-----
From: mozilla-mathml-***@mozilla.org
[mailto:mozilla-mathml-***@mozilla.org] On Behalf Of DKM
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 9:40 AM
To: mozilla-***@mozilla.org
Subject: Re: Math ML in XHTML
Post by David Carlisle
Post by DKM
Is IE 6.0 trying to read
http://www.w3.org/TR/MathML2/dtd/xhtml-math11-f.dtd?
yes
Post by DKM
Why?
Because that is what you have specified. Most XML parsers will read a
DTD if it is specified (that's the point of the doctype declaration)
Mozilla does not,it special cases the mathml dtd and uses its own copy
but that is very much mozilla-specific behaviour.
What if one is offline and the cache is empty? I am glad to know that
Mozilla does not read the DTD. I supposes it is doing the right thing.
So, I wonder why IE is trying to read.
Post by David Carlisle
The URI you used is the wrong one, the canonical mathml dtd is at
Well, I got the template from Design Science web site. And, the
template is still there and it has the 'wrong' DTD link.

Anyway, I had tried it before many months ago with IE 6.0 and it had no
problems with the wrong DTD link. It just stopped working sometime
during the last few months.
Post by David Carlisle
http://www.w3.org/Math/DTD/mathml2/xhtml-math11-f.dtd? Why?
I replaced the old link with the above link and it works now. Thanks.
Post by David Carlisle
IE can read that one, but you don't really want to download that every
time you look at the page.
It's best not to use a DTD (and so don't use entities) or use
mathplayer's auto-detection of the mathml dtd (and so notuse the XSL
stylesheet) in either of those cases, IE will not download the dtd.
I really want to know this. What is a correct template for xhtml that
works for both Mozilla and IE. I have it working on both Mozilla and IE
6.0 with the correct DTD link.

Thank you very much and I really appreciate the info about the correct
DTD link.

DKM
Post by David Carlisle
David
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DKM
2005-11-16 16:10:30 UTC
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Post by Robert Miner
Hi.
Thanks for reporting the bad DTD link. I see it is updated. Sorry for
the hassle.
No, it has not been corrected. I am looking at the following link:

http://www.dessci.com/en/products/mathplayer/author/creatingpages.htm

At the bottom of the page, there is a bit of code that could be used as
xhtml template.

I am using the same template and I am using the corrected DTD link as
follows:

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1 plus MathML 2.0//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/Math/DTD/mathml2/xhtml-math11-f.dtd"
[<!ENTITY mathml "http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML">
]>

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<title>XHTML + MathML Sample Page</title>
</head>
<body>

<h1>XHTML + MathML Sample Page</h1>

<p>This page demonstrates the new MathPlayer 2.0 support XHTML + MathML
pages. It renders properly in Internet Explorer 6 with MathPlayer 2.0,
Netscape 7, and Mozilla 1.4.</p>

<p>Here is a sample equation:</p>

<math display="block" xmlns="&mathml;">
<mi>g</mi>
<mrow><mo>(</mo><mi>x</mi><mo>)</mo></mrow>
<mo>=</mo>
<mrow>
<mfrac>
<mi>&alpha;</mi>
<mi>x</mi>
</mfrac>
<mo>+</mo>
<mfrac>
<mn>1</mn>
<mn>2</mn>
</mfrac>
</mrow>
</math>

<p>You can use this as a template for creating your own interoperable
XHTML + MathML pages.</p>

</body>
</html>


Its working in some systems using IE 6.0 but not working in other
systems using IE 6.0. It does not matter if I am using old bad link to
the DTD or the corrected DTD link. Yes, the latest Mathplayer 2.0 is
installed in all systems.

In the systems where it is not working, I had the old error that I
posted in the original post when using the old link. After changing to
the corrected DTD link, there is no error, but IE 6.0 is displaying in
its default XML view not any rendering of Mathplayer 2.0. It looks like
Mathplayer 2.0 is not intercepting it and letting IE render it in its
default view style.

Thanks in advance for any help.

DKM
Post by Robert Miner
--Robert
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Director, New Product Development
- our address has changed -
Design Science, Inc.
140 Pine Avenue, 4th Floor
Long Beach, California 90802
USA
Tel: (651) 223-2883
Fax: (651) 292-0014
www.dessci.com
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-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: Math ML in XHTML
Post by David Carlisle
Post by DKM
Is IE 6.0 trying to read
http://www.w3.org/TR/MathML2/dtd/xhtml-math11-f.dtd?
yes
Post by DKM
Why?
Because that is what you have specified. Most XML parsers will read a
DTD if it is specified (that's the point of the doctype declaration)
Mozilla does not,it special cases the mathml dtd and uses its own copy
but that is very much mozilla-specific behaviour.
What if one is offline and the cache is empty? I am glad to know that
Mozilla does not read the DTD. I supposes it is doing the right thing.
So, I wonder why IE is trying to read.
Post by David Carlisle
The URI you used is the wrong one, the canonical mathml dtd is at
Well, I got the template from Design Science web site. And, the
template is still there and it has the 'wrong' DTD link.
Anyway, I had tried it before many months ago with IE 6.0 and it had no
problems with the wrong DTD link. It just stopped working sometime
during the last few months.
Post by David Carlisle
http://www.w3.org/Math/DTD/mathml2/xhtml-math11-f.dtd? Why?
I replaced the old link with the above link and it works now. Thanks.
Post by David Carlisle
IE can read that one, but you don't really want to download that every
time you look at the page.
It's best not to use a DTD (and so don't use entities) or use
mathplayer's auto-detection of the mathml dtd (and so notuse the XSL
stylesheet) in either of those cases, IE will not download the dtd.
I really want to know this. What is a correct template for xhtml that
works for both Mozilla and IE. I have it working on both Mozilla and IE
6.0 with the correct DTD link.
Thank you very much and I really appreciate the info about the correct
DTD link.
DKM
Post by David Carlisle
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Robert Miner
2005-11-14 16:05:06 UTC
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For what it is worth, my own opinion is that this is best handled
server-side.

I'm involved with a project at the University of Minnesota that I hope
will result in a free RPM for common linux servers such that:

1) Authors create XHTML+MathML that display in Mozilla, etc.
2) For publication on the server, one adds a single line of PHP in the
header
3) When a browser requests the page, the PHP code does one of three
things:

a) for Mozilla-based browsers, sends the original XHTML+MathML page
b) for IE + MathPlayer installed, does a server-side XSL
transformation to HTML + MathML
c) for every thing else, generates (and caches) an HTML + image
version of the page

The server installation would consist of the RPM, and a standard
apache+PHP+MySQL package.

This isn't a panacea, but it's what looks like the best solution for
this project, and I hope it will be useful for others too.

--Robert


Robert Miner
Director, New Product Development

- our address has changed -
Design Science, Inc.
140 Pine Avenue, 4th Floor
Long Beach, California 90802
USA
Tel: (651) 223-2883
Fax: (651) 292-0014
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-----Original Message-----
From: mozilla-mathml-***@mozilla.org
[mailto:mozilla-mathml-***@mozilla.org] On Behalf Of DKM
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 9:50 AM
To: mozilla-***@mozilla.org
Subject: Re: Math ML in XHTML
Post by David Carlisle
Post by William F Hammond
In view of what is said above, however, I do not understand why you
say it's best not to provide a document type declaration.
I said to use mathplayer auto-detection (which requires doctype) _or_
dont use doctype, and use the stylesheet. Using the stylesheet has
some
Post by David Carlisle
advantages in some cases, in particular it has better fallback
behaviour
Post by David Carlisle
in IE without mathplayer, and also potentially in other browsers taht
have xsl support (of which safari is a new example, and opera 9 is
supposed to have xslt as well)
David
Given that we are dealing with xhtml, I think stylesheet would be the
way to present MathML. But, I like the Mathplayer plug-in because of
some of its extra features. Thus, I was asking my readers to use either
Mozilla which supports MathML natively or use IE together with
Mathplayer plug-in. But, I am getting really annonyed by XHTML and
thinking about changing over to HTML. Is it then possible to design
HTML pages containing MathML that can be viewed all possible browsers?
Maybe I should go back to the basics and start researching on this
topic.

Thank you very much in advance.

DKM
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Robert Miner
2005-11-16 20:32:55 UTC
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Hi.

If you are seeing the XML view, that is a sure sign that MathPlayer's built-in transformation from XML to HTML is not kicking in. I don't think there is anything wrong with your document content. The only conditions on the content are that a) there is a DOCTYPE mentioning MathML, and b) there isn't an XSL stylesheet link (on the assumption that if there is an explicit stylesheet specified, it will handle the math processing for MathPlayer).

That leave's two possibilities. First, IE is incorrectly detecting the MIME type. IE's sniffing to guess MIME types is sort of a black box, and I've never had much luck at getting it to do what I want. MathPlayer only considers a handful of MIME type for built-in processing, which application/xhtml+xml being the preferred one. But presumably you've checked and rechecked that, and since it works on some machines, that seems unlikely.

The last possibility is that some other piece of software has overwritten our registry entries on the problem machines. MathPlayer has to register to listen to specific MIME types by making registry entries. But, for example, if you install or upgrade Office after installing MathPlayer, Office will overwrite the text/xml entries. Maybe some other software is overwritting our application/xhtml+xml keys. Try uninstalling and reinstalling MathPlayer on the problem machines. If that works, this is probably the issue. Of course, by doing so, you will probably be breaking some other app that wants to filter incoming data, but that is a limitation of Windows that I can't do anything about.

Hope this helps,

--Robert

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-----Original Message-----
From: mozilla-mathml-***@mozilla.org on behalf of DKM
Sent: Wed 11/16/2005 10:10 AM
To: mozilla-***@mozilla.org
Subject: Re: Math ML in XHTML
Post by Robert Miner
Hi.
Thanks for reporting the bad DTD link. I see it is updated. Sorry for
the hassle.
No, it has not been corrected. I am looking at the following link:

http://www.dessci.com/en/products/mathplayer/author/creatingpages.htm

At the bottom of the page, there is a bit of code that could be used as
xhtml template.

I am using the same template and I am using the corrected DTD link as
follows:

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1 plus MathML 2.0//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/Math/DTD/mathml2/xhtml-math11-f.dtd"
[<!ENTITY mathml "http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML">
]>

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<title>XHTML + MathML Sample Page</title>
</head>
<body>

<h1>XHTML + MathML Sample Page</h1>

<p>This page demonstrates the new MathPlayer 2.0 support XHTML + MathML
pages. It renders properly in Internet Explorer 6 with MathPlayer 2.0,
Netscape 7, and Mozilla 1.4.</p>

<p>Here is a sample equation:</p>

<math display="block" xmlns="&mathml;">
<mi>g</mi>
<mrow><mo>(</mo><mi>x</mi><mo>)</mo></mrow>
<mo>=</mo>
<mrow>
<mfrac>
<mi>&alpha;</mi>
<mi>x</mi>
</mfrac>
<mo>+</mo>
<mfrac>
<mn>1</mn>
<mn>2</mn>
</mfrac>
</mrow>
</math>

<p>You can use this as a template for creating your own interoperable
XHTML + MathML pages.</p>

</body>
</html>


Its working in some systems using IE 6.0 but not working in other
systems using IE 6.0. It does not matter if I am using old bad link to
the DTD or the corrected DTD link. Yes, the latest Mathplayer 2.0 is
installed in all systems.

In the systems where it is not working, I had the old error that I
posted in the original post when using the old link. After changing to
the corrected DTD link, there is no error, but IE 6.0 is displaying in
its default XML view not any rendering of Mathplayer 2.0. It looks like
Mathplayer 2.0 is not intercepting it and letting IE render it in its
default view style.

Thanks in advance for any help.

DKM
Post by Robert Miner
--Robert
Robert Miner
Director, New Product Development
- our address has changed -
Design Science, Inc.
140 Pine Avenue, 4th Floor
Long Beach, California 90802
USA
Tel: (651) 223-2883
Fax: (651) 292-0014
www.dessci.com
~ Makers of MathType, MathFlow, MathPlayer, WebEQ, Equation Editor,
TexAide ~
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: Math ML in XHTML
Post by David Carlisle
Post by DKM
Is IE 6.0 trying to read
http://www.w3.org/TR/MathML2/dtd/xhtml-math11-f.dtd?
yes
Post by DKM
Why?
Because that is what you have specified. Most XML parsers will read a
DTD if it is specified (that's the point of the doctype declaration)
Mozilla does not,it special cases the mathml dtd and uses its own copy
but that is very much mozilla-specific behaviour.
What if one is offline and the cache is empty? I am glad to know that
Mozilla does not read the DTD. I supposes it is doing the right thing.
So, I wonder why IE is trying to read.
Post by David Carlisle
The URI you used is the wrong one, the canonical mathml dtd is at
Well, I got the template from Design Science web site. And, the
template is still there and it has the 'wrong' DTD link.
Anyway, I had tried it before many months ago with IE 6.0 and it had no
problems with the wrong DTD link. It just stopped working sometime
during the last few months.
Post by David Carlisle
http://www.w3.org/Math/DTD/mathml2/xhtml-math11-f.dtd? Why?
I replaced the old link with the above link and it works now. Thanks.
Post by David Carlisle
IE can read that one, but you don't really want to download that every
time you look at the page.
It's best not to use a DTD (and so don't use entities) or use
mathplayer's auto-detection of the mathml dtd (and so notuse the XSL
stylesheet) in either of those cases, IE will not download the dtd.
I really want to know this. What is a correct template for xhtml that
works for both Mozilla and IE. I have it working on both Mozilla and IE
6.0 with the correct DTD link.
Thank you very much and I really appreciate the info about the correct
DTD link.
DKM
Post by David Carlisle
David
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